Cape Vincent Voter for Wind blows JLL in to the PSC.

In the matter of the Rules and Regulations of the board on Electric Generation Siting and the environment, contained in 16 NYCRR,Chapter X, Certification of Major Electric Generating Facilities.
    I live along the shore of Lake Ontario in the town of Cape Vincent where the wind blows most of the time and Cape Vincent has struggled with potential wind development for 8 years.  A very vocal and rich group of anti-wind people have taken over our town by unethical means and are only interested in their own personal agenda which is-no wind project in Cape Vincent by putting in very restrictive rules on siting towers-3miles from any homes/lake/river and trying to change zoning areas such as agricultureland into recreational and residential.
    When the seasonal people leave in the Fall it is very difficult for a local business owner to stay open for the Winter and we need this shot in the arm that a wind project would bring to our community.  They would employ local people as well as bring tax relief that would benefit everyone and keep our local elementary school open. Because of cuts from the State our school has been threatened to be closed for the last 3 years.  We need your support of Article 10!
    I understand that the pro wind people that have written comments to your board are now being criticized by our local anti-wind blog-
Jefferson Leaning Left!
    We need article 10 and we need clean green energy.  Don't let our wind go to waste!

Margaret Joliff


  1. Anonymous5/04/2012

    The unethical means that Ms. Joliff is complaining about is:

    1) Run for office and tell the voters what you stand for.

    2) Encourage all eligible voters to register to vote and show up on election day.

    3) Campaign your ass off and talk to the people.

    4) Win an election!

    There is nothing unethical about that at all Mrs. Joliff.

  2. Anonymous5/04/2012

    I think Maggie got the winners confused with the losers.
    The losers were the wiley-kings who.
    1. lied about voter fraud and how they would use a petition claiming voter fraud was going on.
    2. attended a public meeting and accuse those who oppose them of being unethical and immoral because they registered to vote.
    3. get two wind lease conflicted town councilmen to pass an illegal voter registration law that was intended to intimidate voters.
    4. intimidate voters by getting Gary King and Harold Wiley to send letters to out of town assessors trying to get them to take away the STAR exemption of the people who legally chose to vote in Cape Vincent.
    5. run only town board candidates who had signed leases with industrial wind developers.
    As far as criticism goes, you are not being criticized for making a comment. It is your right.
    But when you publicly declare prejudice against any group and claim they don't have the right to vote and the right to democratic process, you be criticized. I served my county so we could live without bigotry or prejudice and be able to vote at the home we love best.

  3. Anonymous5/04/2012

    I love her comment that

    "When the seasonal people leave in the Fall it is very difficult for a local business owner to stay open for the Winter and we need this shot in the arm that a wind project would bring to our community. "

    So the locals can't survive without the money the seasonals bring, but no opinions allowed.
    She almost makes it sound like it's the seasonals' faults all the way around.
    I see no reason to spend any more money in CV.

  4. Anonymous5/04/2012

    Mrs Joliff must be one of those rich people if she lives along the shore of Lake Ontario. In all the years I have lived in the Cape, I have not once seen her shopping in Aubrey's during the winter months.
    However, I recently saw her picture in the paper when she took an elite vacation.

    Yes Maggie, the wind does blow on the Lake, but not nearly as strong as the hatred and lies blowing from pro windies who hide the fact, they are more wealthy than most cottage owners.

  5. Anonymous5/04/2012

    Joliff's complaint to the PSC reminds me of the time Elaine on Seinfeld complained to the labor board that she was refused a job at the diner because they only hired big breasted women.

    After she filed her complaint there was standing room only at the diner and the guys from the labor board started eating there every day.

    Carry on JLL

  6. Anonymous5/04/2012

    The Joliff and Pond turbines are some of the more higher impacting ones on Lake properties.

    They never should have even been proposed in the first place.

  7. Anonymous5/04/2012

    There is a picture of Margaret Joliff in the TI Sun "where the sun sets”.
    It sets in France.
    I can't afford to go to France.

  8. Anonymous5/04/2012

    As far as I am concerned, Bp and voters for wind can put their turbines where the sun don't shine.
    Cape is getting sick of these sniveling bigots.
    And I am sick of keeping quiet about it all.

  9. Anonymous5/04/2012

    The hatred and bigotry show the depths people will go when money is involved.

    Yes 2:53 is right, seems the natives need your money but make no mistake they don't think you should have an opinion or the right to vote.

    I too am tired of keeping quiet about it. As a taxpayer in this town I have as much right as anyone else and NOONE will intimidate me not to exercise that right!

    The pro-windies can't win anyone over with the facts on industrial turbines, so all that's left is the hate.

  10. Anonymous5/05/2012

    It was good that Maggie Joliff brought JLL to the attention of the PSC. State lawmakers are already aware of Cape's wind corruption. Because of such wind corruption AG Cuomo spent millions of taxpayer money in legal work while developing the industrial wind developer code of ethics.

    If members of the PSC and the people in New York State now come to JLL and Pandora they will get a feel for Cape Vincent and whether they want to come near us with any recommendations for State forced energy sitings and ignoring the local laws.

    For one, they will be able to hear about a town board member who mocked Andy Cuomo's wind codes of ethics by saying the AG was a waste of time.

    That person doing the mocking was wind lease holder Marty Mason, a village employee who was sitting on the Town Board and had signed an agreement that said he would do all he could in the siting of industrial wind turbines in the town of Cape Vincent.

    The perfect definition of government conflict of interest.

    Fortunately the people in the town of Cape Vincent took matters in their own hands and voted him out of office despite the best efforts of the wiley/kings.

  11. Anonymous5/05/2012

    Check the TI Paper again M. Jolliff did Not go to France.

    She went to Florida to visit family.ounad Morded

  12. Anonymous5/07/2012

    Are all of the people in the US this opposed to those who vote and freedom of speech?

  13. Anonymous5/07/2012




    Don't call yourself american if you criticize the right to vote by anyone.

  14. Anonymous5/07/2012

    Just get for facts correct Mrs. Joliff.

    You are not being criticized for making a comment to the PSC. Everyone affected should and has a right too.

    You are being attacked for making a democratically ignorant comment that attacks the right to vote and free speech of others.

    I served to defend us against your kind of democracy haters.